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Palm Lane. 2 Q.
Mr. Blair, taking a look at this letter, isn't it the 3 truth that in this letter to your
parents that you didn't 4 mention anything about Bo Gerhardt
shoving you into a sink or 5 wall? 6 A.
Absolutely. 7 Q.
And isn't it also true that in this letter you don't 8 make any reference to work to your
parents? 9 A.
Absolutely. 10 Q.
Going on to the next letter, Plaintiff's Exhibit 12. 11 Once again the date on this letter, it
says 10/26/01. And, 12 Mr. Blair, taking a look at this
letter, did you write this 13 while you were enrolled at Palm Lane? 14 A.
Give me a second to read through this to make sure.
I 15 don't see any indication that it would
indicate that was 16 written on November. It could have been written on October 17 like it was dated. 18 Q.
Okay, fair enough. Mr. Blair, isn't it
the truth that 19 in this letter that you wrote to your
parents that you didn't 20 make any mention of Bo Gerhardt
shoving you into a sink or a 21 wall? 22 A.
Absolutely not. 23 Q.
Okay. In fact, Mr. Blair, we could go
through every 24 other letter that you have offered
into evidence in this 25 trial, over 20 letters. In every single one of those letters II
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didn't make any 2 reference of Bo Gerhardt shoving you
into a wall? 3 A.
I would never make a reference with these letters being 4 monitored and risk the punishment. 5
MR. BRIGGS: Your Honor, I'd instruct
the witness 6 not to -- I'd instruct the Court to
instruct the jury to 7 disregard the answer and move to
strike the remaining portion 8 of the answer. 9
THE COURT: The jury is so instructed. 10 BY MR. BRIGGS: 11 Q.
Now, if we could turn to Exhibit 26, Mr. Blair. 12
THE COURT: Is that Exhibit 26? 13
MR. BRIGGS: Yes, Your Honor. 14 Q.
Mr. Blair, did you write this letter? 15 A.
Yes, sir. 16 Q.
And what's the date on it? 17 A.
January 18th, 2002. 18 Q.
Okay. At that point in time you were
down at Palm 19 Lane? 20 A.
Yes, sir. 21 Q.
Okay. In the letter once again, and
I'll read it, you 22 state to your parents, "I'm
having to take my junior year 23 over again." Is that correct? 24 A.
Yes, sir. 25 Q.
All right. Very good. You didn't make any reference
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parents in any letter that 2 you wrote; isn't that correct, Mr.
Blair? 3 A.
Yes, sir. 4 Q.
Now, turning to Exhibit 30. Mr. Blair,
was this 5 written in or around February 2002? 6 A.
Yes, sir. 7 Q.
And I've highlighted some text in the middle of the 8 letter and I'll go ahead and read it. I've learned to weld, 9 to fix a toilet completely, use a belt
sander. Do you see 10 that there? 11 A.
Yes, sir. 12 Q.
Did I read the handwriting correctly? 13 A.
Yes, sir. 14 Q.
Now, learning these vocational skills, learning to 15 weld, learning to fix a toilet, are
those some of the work 16 chores or -- strike that. Were some of the work things that 17 you did while you were at Palm Lane? 18 A.
Yes, sir. 19 Q.
Okay. And you're asking this jury to
pay you for 20 learning these skills, correct? 21 A.
Absolutely. 22 Q.
Okay. And Exhibit 31. Mr. Blair, on direct you said 23 that it took about a week to dig the
pond. And then you said 24 that it wasn't completed when you left
Palm Lane, correct? 25 A.
Yes, sir.
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Okay. Looking at this exhibit, it is
dated February 8, 2 2002.
And the second sentence or third sentence says, "Well, 3 right now we're working on digging a
pond." Do you see that 4 there? 5 A.
Yes, sir. 6 Q.
Okay. You said the pond took about a
week. And yet it 7 wasn't finished when you left. And I thought it was your 8 testimony that you left Palm Lane in
March 15, 2002. Isn't 9 that right? 10 A.
Yes, sir. 11 Q.
Okay. Mr. Blair, well, then if it only
took a week, it 12 should have been finished, correct? 13 A.
Well, we were in Florida and it rains a lot so 14 you're -- we're not going to dig out
in the mud when it's 15 raining, so we would postpone. But it was about a week's 16 worth of work that I had labored on
the pond. 17 Q.
You said it was raining a lot but that you were working 18 outside in the sun every day, and that
that's the basis for 19 your Fair Labor Standards Act claim,
correct? 20 A.
When I worked on the pastures. 21 Q.
Okay. And otherwise when you worked
outside, did you 22 only work outside when it was nice
out? 23 A.
Not all the time. We would be --
there's an overhang 24 at Palm Lane where we'd work
underneath when it was raining. 25 But the pond was located out in the
pasture, so -- and also
II - 45 1 it was in Florida so you really can't
-- I mean, it will rain 2 wherever, so. 3 Q.
Okay. And this was in the winter time
in Florida, 4 right? 5 A.
Yes, sir. 6 Q.
All right. Going on spring. You never worked in 7 Florida in the summertime? 8 A.
Right. 9 Q.
Now, in calculating the hours that you said you worked 10 while you were at Mountain Park and
Palm Lane, I just want to 11 get this correct. You said that there is no way to give 12 specific dates and times that you
actually were doing 13 specific tasks or actually working; is
that right? 14 A.
Right. 15 Q.
Okay. So you can't tell us exactly
what hours you were 16 working on a particular day? 17 A.
Well, I can tell you for sure as far as the tasks I 18 performed, the labor I performed as
far as like I previously 19 stated on the jobs like digging the
pond and things of that 20 nature, that would be at least two and
a half, three hours 21 per day, that's for sure, I can know
for sure. 22 Q.
Well, that really wasn't an answer to my question.
I 23 said that you really can't tell us the
specific hours you 24 worked on specific days. And that's what I asked. 25 A.
Yes, sir, that's correct, I can't.
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Okay. 2 A.
There were no records that we kept or anything like 3 that. 4 Q.
You said in a typical day at Mountain Park or Palm Lane 5 that you got up and then you said a
prayer; is that right? 6 A.
Yes, sir, I was forced to do that. 7 Q.
Okay. Do you understand, Mr. Blair,
that when your 8 father enrolled you at Mountain Park
that he understood 9 Mountain Park had a religious --
religion based curriculum? 10 A.
I believe so. 11 Q.
Okay. After you said your prayers, you
said that you 12 did chores, correct? 13 A.
Yes, sir. 14 Q.
And you did chores in and around the dorm area cleaning 15 up the common areas so to speak? 16 A.
Yes, sir, laundry, things of that nature. 17 Q.
That would be making your bed, correct? 18 A.
Yes, sir. 19 Q.
Sweeping the floor? 20 A.
Yes, sir. 21 Q.
You said just then doing laundry? 22 A.
Yes, sir. 23 Q.
And you're not asking this jury to pay you for those 24 tasks? 25 A.
Absolutely not.
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Mr. Blair, these indoctrination sessions that you 2 testified about, you studied bible
scripture during those 3 indoctrination sessions, correct? 4 A.
Their version of the bible, yes, sir. 5 Q.
And their version of the bible is the King James 6 version of the bible? 7 A.
Yes, sir. 8 Q.
Okay. Did you talk about the scripture
that you read? 9 A.
Yes, sir. Excuse me, what was your
exact question? 10 Q.
Did you talk about the scripture that you read? 11 A.
As in me personally? 12 Q.
As in somebody within the group. 13 A.
Someone in the group spoke on their interpretation of 14 it. 15 Q.
Thank you. While you were at Mountain
Park you said 16 that after lunch you would do chores,
correct, you'd get put 17 into your work clothes and you'd go
out and do work in the 18 yard? 19 A.
Yes, sir. 20 Q.
Would that include mowing the yard? 21 A.
No, sir, I was -- we weren't mowing the yards at the 22 time, it was winter. 23 Q.
Okay. Would you be raking leaves? 24 A.
Yes, sir. 25 Q.
Did you haul firewood?
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Yes, sir. 2 Q.
Did you clear brush? 3 A.
Yes, sir. 4
Q. Were there -- strike
that. On some afternoons during 5 the week you would play games or
sports; is that correct? 6 A.
Just once at Mountain Park anyway. 7 Q.
Would that happen on occasion at Palm Lane? 8 A.
Yes, sir. 9 Q.
So you weren't doing these outdoor work activities 10 every day, correct? 11 A.
Correct. 12 Q.
These outdoor activities that you did including the 13 hauling of firewood, raking leaves,
clearing brush, were 14 those done in teams? 15 A.
At Mountain Park they were. 16 Q.
Now, at Palm Lane did you also do afternoon tasks, job 17 tasks or work tasks? 18 A.
Yes, sir. 19 Q.
Okay. But there were some afternoons
when you would 20 play games? 21 A.
Yes, sir. 22 Q.
On days when you happened to be doing the outdoor 23 tasks, would that include taking out
the trash? 24 A.
Yes, sir. 25 Q.
And cleaning cars?
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The -- yes, sir. 2 Q.
And just so we make it clear, those are the cars that 3 were on campus at Palm Lane, with the
possible exception of 4 doing Mr. and Mrs. Wills' car? 5 A.
With the other employees' staff vehicles also. 6 Q.
Would you mow the lawn? 7 A.
Yes, sir. 8 Q.
And would you clear brush? 9 A.
Yes, sir. 10 Q.
You said that you also painted some fences; is that 11 right? 12 A.
Yes, sir. 13 Q.
And you're asking the jury to pay you for those outdoor 14 tasks that you performed? 15 A.
Yes, sir. 16 Q.
Now, you said something about there being cattle at 17 Palm Lane. As you sit here today you don't know whether Palm 18 Lane owned any cattle, correct? 19 A.
In Ms. Wills' other testimony she stated that they do 20 not own the cattle, so no. 21 Q.
So they don't own the cattle. If
cattle got sick, who 22 would take care of the cattle? 23 A.
We would immediately. Then they would
call the owner. 24 Q.
Okay. And who is the owner? 25 A.
I only knew the individual as a man named Tousiaant.
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Now, going back to this pond that you said that you 2 dug.
You said that actually one of the staff members was 3 using a small bulldozer or front end
loader, correct? 4 A.
Yes, sir. 5 Q.
Okay. And you among the other
students, male students 6 were dressing the edges of the pond? 7 A.
Yes, sir. 8 Q.
And you said that you did that for a week? 9 A.
Yes, sir. 10 Q.
With respect to the pond, were you told by the staff 11 member why it was being dug? 12 A.
For the cows. 13
Q. Who told you that? 14 A.
Robert Kennedy. 15 Q.
Now, Mr. Blair, are you making a claim for on call work 16 in connection with this lawsuit? 17 A.
Yes, sir. 18 Q.
You are. Did you plead that? 19 A.
No, sir. 20 Q.
Okay. Do you know if your lawyer pled
that on your 21 behalf? 22
MR. STILLEY: Objection on the grounds
this witness 23 doesn't have knowledge of that, of
technical legal matters. 24
MR. BRIGGS: Well, actually if he has
knowledge, 25 i.e., he verified the petition, Your
Honor.
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MR. STILLEY: He verified the facts. 2
MR. BRIGGS: Well, that would be a
fact. 3
THE COURT: Fine. Go ahead. 4 BY MR. BRIGGS: 5 Q.
Do you know if he did? Do you know if
your lawyer pled 6 that on your behalf? 7 A.
I don't have that knowledge. 8 Q.
Mr. Blair, were you on orientation the entire time you 9 were at Mountain Park and Palm Lane? 10 A.
Yes, sir. 11 Q.
You understood orientation was for new students, 12 correct? 13 A.
Yes, sir. 14 Q.
And a more senior or not necessarily an aged senior but 15 a more experienced student would act
as an orientation guide 16 and be within arms length distance of
a new student, correct? 17 A.
The way I understood it, the way they pick and choose. 18 Q.
So whoever was chosen to act as an orientation guide? 19 A.
Yes, sir. 20 Q.
Typically that was a more senior student? 21 A.
No, sir, my orientation guide was 14 years old. 22 Q.
Well, when I said more senior, someone who had more 23 experience at Mountain Park or Palm
Lane? 24 A.
By a month. 25 Q.
Do you understand that student would not come off
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demonstrated they could be 2 trusted? 3 A.
Yes, sir. 4 Q.
Since you did not come off orientation the entire time 5 that you were at Mountain Park and
Palm Lane, then it would 6 be fair to say that Mountain Park and
Palm Lane staff didn't 7 feel that you could be trusted? 8 A.
No, sir. 9 Q.
Why isn't that a fair statement based upon what you 10 just testified to? 11 A.
Because, well, me and the other students also raised 12 the question with Andrew Parrish. I felt I should come off 13 orientation, and that's about as far
as that went. 14 Q.
And a more senior staff wouldn't permit that to happen? 15 A.
I don't have knowledge of any of that. 16 Q.
Mr. Blair, with respect to the security guard issue, 17 you said you had to watch out for
students to make sure they 18 didn't escape, correct? 19 A.
Yes, sir. 20 Q.
With respect to your claim that you were a security 21 guard 24 hours a day, if you were on
orientation with a more 22 senior student watching you, then how
could you be watching 23 for other students? 24 A.
It would be -- no student is allowed in the room by 25 himself. See, there's always going to be other students
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- 53 1 around you. 2 Q.
Well, of course. So the mere fact that
no students are 3 permitted to be in a room by
themselves, that therefore 4 renders you a security guard, that's
what you're claiming? 5 A.
Yes, sir. 6 Q.
Okay. So the mere fact that you
couldn't be in a room 7 by yourself is your basis for claiming
that you're a security 8 guard, that's what you just testified
to? 9 A.
What if my orientation guide decided he was going to 10 run off. I was to report any -- 11 Q.
So you were to report if another student ran off? 12 A.
No, you didn't let me finish my answer. I
was to 13 report if he discussed any -- 14 Q.
Well, that's what you had just said. So
-- 15
MR. STILLEY: Objection. I request the witness be 16 allowed to answer the question
completely before the next 17 question be asked. 18
THE COURT: Reask your question. 19 BY MR. BRIGGS: 20 Q.
Mr. Blair, the entire time you were at Mountain Park 21 and Palm Lane you were always in the
presence of an 22 orientation guide or staff member? 23 A.
No, sir. 24 Q.
When were you not? 25 A.
The day that I ran away on March 15th, 2002.
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So the first opportunity that you had not to be under 2 the eye of an orientation guide or
staff member you ran away? 3 A.
Yes, sir. 4 Q.
It's kind of ironic then that somebody who is supposed 5 to be a security guard would run away
the first chance they 6 had, isn't it? 7 A.
I was an involuntary security guard, sir. 8 Q.
Mr. Blair, while you were at Mountain Park did you ever 9 do the outdoor tasks, the clearing
brush, raking leaves for 10 somebody in the town of Patterson
other than the people 11 living at Mountain Park? 12 A.
No, sir. 13 Q.
Mr. Blair, while you were at Mountain Park and Palm 14 Lane did you ever make any goods that
were sold by Mountain 15 Park or Palm Lane? 16 A.
No, sir. 17
MR. BRIGGS: A moment while I may
confer, Your 18 Honor? 19
THE COURT: Go right ahead. 20
MR. BRIGGS: Thank you. That's all I have at this 21 time, Your Honor. May I approach the witness to remove the 22 deposition? 23
THE COURT: Absolutely. Mr. Stilley. 24
REDIRECT EXAMINATION 25 BY MR. STILLEY:
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Mr. Blair, were your letters
read by other persons 2 before they were mailed to your
parents? 3 A.
Yes, sir. 4
MR. BRIGGS: Objection, Your Honor,
move to strike. 5
THE COURT: Overruled. 6 BY MR. STILLEY: 7 Q.
And do you know who read those letters? 8 A.
The dorm supervisor for sure. Also
some of the letters 9 I see that Sam Gerhardt has read those
and written in 10 portions. 11 Q.
Did you have any reason not to say certain things in 12 those letters? 13 A.
Absolutely. 14 Q.
And how did you come to have knowledge that there were 15 certain things you shouldn't say? 16 A.
I had been punished before for even the things I had 17 already written as far as my beliefs
and my parents' beliefs. 18 Q.
Why didn't you say in those letters that the treatment 19 you were getting at Mountain Park and
Palm Lane would cause 20 you to have to repeat your junior and
senior years? 21 A.
Excuse me, could you ask that? 22 Q.
Why did you say in those letters that you have to 23 repeat your junior and senior years? 24 A.
Because they -- Mountain Park and Palm Lane didn't know 25 where to place me so they just
basically picked whatever they
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- 56 1 thought was easy for them. They didn't want to get records 2 from my previous school, the one I
graduated from. They 3 didn't try to do any of that. 4 Q.
What location were you at when you left the supervision 5 of Palm Lane? 6 A.
At a Home Depot in Port Charlotte, Florida, I believe. 7 It may have been Arcadia, Florida, but
around that region. 8 Q.
Okay. Moving on to a different issue
here. You didn't 9 keep a log of your hours that you
worked, did you? 10 A.
No, sir. 11 Q.
Why not? 12 A.
I wasn't allowed to. 13 Q.
What's your basis of personal knowledge about that? 14 A.
You're not allowed to write things that they don't want 15 you to write down. 16 Q.
But you didn't have a copy of the written rules, 17 though, did you? 18 A.
No, sir. 19 Q.
How did you find out that that was a rule? 20 A.
Drew Parrish told me. 21 Q.
And why did he come to have occasion to tell you? 22 A.
Because I had marked in my bible days that I had 23 written down for memory verses, stuff
like that. They 24 were -- there were only little marks
so it couldn't be 25 distinguished as. However, I guess it could have been used
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so. 2 Q.
How did he find out that you made marks in your bible? 3 A.
He just inspected my bible. They
inspect all the 4 bibles. 5 Q.
How frequently? 6 A.
Just wherever they feel like it. 7 Q.
Now, on cross-examination you said something about King 8 James bible. Was just any King James bible okay? 9 A.
No, sir. 10
MR. BRIGGS: Objection, Your Honor, how
is this 11 relevant? 12
MR. STILLEY: Your Honor, he asked -- 13
THE COURT: Well, we've gone enough
into that. 14
MR. STILLEY: Can I have one more
question? 15
THE COURT: No. 16
MR. STILLEY: Thank you, Judge. Pass the witness. 17
THE COURT: Anything else, Mr. Briggs? 18
MR. BRIGGS: Nothing further, Your
Honor. 19
THE COURT: Very well. Mr. Blair, you may step 20 down.
Call your next witness. 21
MR. STILLEY: Your Honor, can I have
just about one 22
minute to talk to them or less? 23
THE COURT: One minute. 24
MR. STILLEY: Just a very little bit to
talk to my 25 client?
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THE COURT: Fine. 2
MR. STILLEY: Thank you, Judge. Plaintiff rests. 3
THE COURT: Come on up. 4
(The following proceedings were held at the bench 5
and outside the hearing of the jury:) 6
MR. OLIVER: I need to get it retyped. 7
THE COURT: No. Go ahead. 8
MR. OLIVER: Well, Palm Lane and
Mountain Park and 9 Betty Wills and Bob Wills and Sam
Gerhardt on the one hand 10 and Drew Parrish, Robert Kennedy, and
Bo, Julie, and Robert 11 O'Brient as individuals move for
directed verdict on the Fair 12 Labor Standards Act case for -- there
are a lot of reasons. 13
THE COURT: Well, we're going to -- I
think this may 14 take a little time. 15
MR. OLIVER: I agree with you. 16
THE COURT: Why don't I let the jury go
out. 17
MR. OLIVER: Fine. 18
(The following proceedings continued within the 19 hearing of the jury:) 20
THE COURT: It's become clear this is
going to take 21 a little time, so why should you sit
here. Why don't you all 22 take a break. You see what I'm saying. 23
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we're going to 24 take a recess as far as you are
concerned. Why don't you be 25 prepared to return to your jury room
at 20 after 11. Recall
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(The following proceedings were held outside the 3 hearing of the jury:) 4
THE COURT: Okay. Defendants have a motion for a 5 directed verdict at the close of all
-- at the close of 6 rather the plaintiff's case. Go ahead, Mr. Oliver. 7
MR. OLIVER: Thank you, Your Honor. First, Your 8 Honor, on behalf of the individual
defendants Drew Parrish, 9 Robert Kennedy, Robert O'Brient, Julie
Gerhardt, Bo Gerhardt, 10 and Deborah Gerhardt, the simplest
answer or the simplest 11 reason that these defendants are
entitled to a directed 12 verdict on the Fair Labor Standards
Act is that under no 13 circumstances are they shown to be
employers. There's no 14 evidence that any of those individuals
had any decision 15 making capacity at all. In fact, there's absolutely no 16 evidence that Drew Parrish, Robert
Kennedy, Robert O'Brient, 17 Julie Gerhardt, Bo Gerhardt, or
Deborah Gerhardt ever made a 18 decision at all in this case. There's a total absence of 19 evidence. 20
Now, to be an employer you have to suffer or permit 21 somebody to work in traditional terms. And the test of 22 whether or not an individual is an
employer is a test which 23 specifically in the Eighth Circuit
under Wirts and other 24 cases require the Court to look at
whether or not the 25 individual has the ability to hire, fire, and dictate the |
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